BS proof of God's existence
The Argument From The Throne Room
1. Would you stand in the presence of a mighty king and demand that he prove he exists?
2. No?
3. That's what you're doing with God, you arrogant bastards.
4. I don't CARE that you can't see him!
5. Therefore, God exists.
Consider this
Man created God in his image : intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent.


Ones to Watch
Videos I have singled out as 'essential viewing'. You can view the videos here, but often the maker will add useful information to their sidebar, so I encourage you to watch the video at the host site by click on the link (under 'Posted by'). And of course you will then be able to comment and vote on that video too.

Theist's Guide to Converting Atheists (1/2)
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In several years of debating atheism and theism, I have made an observation. Ask any believer what would convince him he was mistaken and persuade him to leave his religion and become an atheist, and if you get a response, it will almost invariably be, "Nothing - I have faith in my god." Although such people may well exist, I personally have yet to meet a theist who would acknowledge even the possibility that his belief was in error. Many theists, by their own admission, structure their beliefs so that no evidence could possibly disprove them. In short, they are closed-minded, and have been taught to be closed-minded.

In light of this, it is ironic that atheists are often accused of being the closed-minded ones. Fundamentalist very frequently claim that we have hardened hearts, we are dogmatic and irrational, and that we reject God based on preconceived bias. Such claims result from psychological projection. Incapable of coping with the fact that there are some people who genuinely do not believe in their god, these theists simply deny that such people exist, and instead insist that everyone thinks the same way they do. Therefore, people who reach different conclusions than them must have some secret ulterior motive for not believing. This is truly ridiculous, but unfortunately, some people really believe it.

Thus, in the spirit of proving that the atheist's mind is not closed, I've assembled a list of what I would accept as proof that a given religion is true. Also included are things that I would accept as circumstantial evidence of a particular religion's truth and things that would not be acceptable to me as proof of anything. While I do not claim to speak for all atheists, I would confidently say that any religion that could produce one of the things from the first list would probably gain a great number of converts.

To be fair, I invite all theists to respond by preparing a list of things that they would accept as proof that atheism is true. If any theist prepares such a list please post it.

The first category deals with things that would absolutely convince me of the truth of a particular religion. If shown any of these, I would convert on the spot.

  • Verified, specific prophecies that could not have been contrived.
  • If the prophecy is vague, unclear or garbled (like Nostradamus' ramblings, for example). It must be detailed, specific and unambiguous in its prediction and wording.
  • If the prophecy is trivial, anyone could predict that it will be cold next winter, or that this drought/plague/flood will eventually subside. The prophecy must predict something surprising, unlikely or unique.
  • If the prophecy is obviously contrived for other reasons, No official seer or court astrologer ever predicted that the king he worked for would be a brutal, evil tyrant who would ruin the country.
  • If the prophecy is self-fulfilling; i.e., if the mere fact of the prophecy's existence could cause people to make it come true, The Jewish people returned to their homeland in Israel just as the Bible said they would, but this isn't a genuine prediction - they did it because the Bible said they would. The predicted event can't be one that people could stage.
  • If the prophecy predicts an event that already happened and the writing of the prophecy itself can't be shown to have preceded the event.
  • If the prophecy predicts an event that already happened and the happening of that event can't be verified by independent evidence. For example, Christian apologists claim that Jesus fulfilled many Old Testament prophecies, but the authors of the New Testament obviously had access to those prophecies also; what would have prevented them from writing their story to conform to them? The extra-biblical evidence for the existence of Jesus is so scanty that it is impossible to disprove such a proposal.
  • And finally, if the prophecy is the lone success among a thousand failures, anyone can throw prophecies against a wall until one sticks. The book or other source from which it comes must have at least a decently good record on other predictions.
These conditions, are reasonable, and are only what would be expected of a true prophet with a genuine gift.

Scientific knowledge in holy books that was not available at the time.

18 April 2007


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Atheism and Speaking in Tongues

Exploring that 'overwhelming feeling of rich emotion'.


Christ's Sacrifice
There's a big to-do about Jesus' apparent sacrifice. Let's discuss it.
An Elementary Question
Sometimes children see the world in such a way that it challenges our formerly held beliefs. It almost makes up for that sour milk smell they have.
Arguments Against Gay Marriage
A message given to a Christian a few weeks ago about her position on gay marriage.
Equal-Opportunity Sin!
If all sins are equal, that's quite a problem where questions of morality are concerned.
The atheist spirit
This is why I am angry.
I Know More Than God
40 things God SHOULD have known.
Fuck Creationism
A video banned from YouTube, this is GypsyWytch's gift to the CSE (Creation Science Evangelism) idiots who tried to shut down any criticism of their site and their head moron, Kent Hovind.
I'll tell you what the F'ing problem is
What religion does
Creationist is the new insult to use
Well.... would you want to be called a creationist?
Exodus in the United States
What if the biblical account took place in the U.S. in 2007?
Muhammad - Kid Fucker
Let's not call Muhammad a pedophile any more. A kid fucker is what he is. Muslim texts tell us this is what he did, so the description is fitting.
What Theists Hate
What theists hate. All of these and more.


Theist's Guide to Converting Atheists

In the spirit of proving that the atheist's mind is not closed, here is a list of what would be accepted as proof that a given religion is true.


Morality without God?

Describing a few of the problems with theistic based morality and suggesting how one can be moral and a non-believer.


God and DNA made easy
Could God have designed DNA? In animation and pictures we see how God has a lot of explaining to do.


Douglas Adams

Some excellent thoughts from Douglas Adams, author of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and well-known (dead) atheist.


Behold the power of faith
The power of religous faith (and the power of a moving soundtrack)
Dance Monkeys Dance
Dance Monkeys Dance by Ernest Cline - www.ernestcline.com
Battlefield Prayers
Why do battlefield prayers sound so convincing?


Pioneering YouTube Atheist Videos

These videos are two of the most well known and well-loved atheist videos on YouTube. They were also some of the very first atheist videos on YT, period. The phenomenon of YouTube atheism can thank these videos for starting it all off. Thanks!


The Bible Says...
Watch the President (sadly not the real one, this is The West Wing) deliver some major pwnage to a hateful, bigoted bible basher. Sweet.
Atheism and meaning. A humanist approach.
How atheists find meaning in their lives.
Who Is More Moral?
A Christian once suggested to me that God would only want the best people in his heaven... with that in mind, who would he prefer?
Marilyn Manson Speech - The God Band-Aid
You can watch the news 24-7 for the next week (or more) and you won't find any politician or commentator making more sense than Marilyn Manson in this speech.
Atheist Life vs Religious Life
Some argue that religious life is the best way to live. They claim life without a god is sad and depressing. Statements like "I could not imagine my life without God", and "My life would be meaningless without God", are common defenses for a religious life. The following is a list of advantages atheists enjoy over a religious life.
Why Darwin's 'Evolution' is a 'Bad Thing' - Atheist Response
Some facts, counterpoint, and reasoning - instead of just pointless accusations and anger.
Post your deconversion stories here!!!
Post a video response with your story of how you deconverted from a religion. Be detailed and descriptive! If you never were religious, tell us about a time when someone tried to convert you but didn't.
Atheist Rant
This is a very powerful message, one which immediately struck a chord with me when I watched the video. When you have something to say you don't always want to debate your points with others. Sometimes you just want to put your views out there.
Ed Husain, author of "The Islamist"
Ed Husain's story of how a young London Muslim was turned into a potential jihadist, The Islamist, is a wake-up call for Britain.
The Moderate Muslim Myth
Moderate Muslims: do they exist? Unlikely.
Atheist Culture, Organizing, Language
Ideas for promoting atheism in a more positive way. Engaging in dialogue rather than aggression towards others with different views.
What If?
Pascal's Wager to the max!
Rational Response Squad takes on Christians on ABC
The Rational Response Squad recently was asked to respond to claims that Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron could prove that god exists without invoking faith or the bible. Comfort and Cameron failed at this claim. This reel is the highlights as seen through the eyes of the RRS. The entire 1.5 hour debate is available at http://www.ABCNews.com
An Atheist Ad Contest!
Create a 30 second (or less) ad for atheism, that would make atheism attractive to theists.
I'm a better Muslim than many Muslims
As strange as it sounds, it's probably true.
Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West
Intro clip for the must see documentary on global terrorism, and the groups hijacking Islam with the aim to kill non-Muslims and Muslims who don't agree with them.
Truth about Islam from an ex-Muslim lady
In this video an ex-Muslim lady describes how Islam is bad and against any form of civilization. Islam is NOT a religion of peace and tolerance. In fact it is quite the opposite.
Fair and Balanced
A response to the January 30th 2007 Paula Zahn Now broadcast on CNN, which had quickly degenerated into an absurd atheist-bashing session. A transcript is available at http://coffeeghost.net
Absolute certainty
The ultimate drug.
Mohammad Cartoons and Muslim Islamic Outrage
Let the cartoons themselves tell the story of the whole Danish episode, very craftfully composed of real cartoons published during and after the incident.
Why Do / Don't You Believe In God?
Many atheists were Christians for a long time before they became atheists. They know what it's like to believe in the teachings of the Bible, and then come to the realisation that Christianity is something which divides people and teaches intolerance and hatred.
Atheist Peace
We're all unique snow flakes. We're all on the same team.
Jesus Loves Me
If you don't accept Jesus' Love Jesus lets you go to hell, but Jesus still loves you. He loves you so much he made a special place for those who don't want his love it is Hell there they will burn.
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years in Heaven
In the same way that Christians don't understand the immensity of geological timescales when considering evolution, they are also blissfully ignorant of what 'for all eternity' would actually mean. Just how many years do you really want, if Heaven means living forever?
Agnosticism (Re: Theists and Atheists, answer me this)
Why should agnostics have to take a position? It's simple. If you wish to participate in a discussion, you have to have something to add other than "I don't know".
Religion and Science Compared
FantasticBabblings, Phil, whose floating head illusion has been perfected in later videos, uses an excellent analogy to compare how science and religion find explanations for the bigger picture.
The Best Apples in the World
I watched this video for the first time at Christmas 2006. I wish I'd made something like this myself, but nobody could have done it better than chadagg!
I am an atheist
This is a simple, straightforward, honest, open, engaging video. An atheist declaration.
Building From Scratch
Any religion that encourages separation of individuals, any religion that encourages violence, any religion that encourages people to be sumbissive, any religion that says that one person is better than the other... that's not a good religion. It's not a good religion at all.


Nick Gisburne - Background Information
Defending the Qur'an translation used for the 'banned' video
FantasticBabblings researches the accusations that my 'banned' Qur'an video misrepresented the Muslim holy book. Verdict: my video was justified in its portrayal of those passages.

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