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BS proof of God's existence
Argument From Self-evidence, Abridged
1. God is self-evident.
2. Therefore, God exists.
Consider this
If we are going to teach 'creation science' as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction.
Judith Hayes


Atheist on the Blog
The more I look at religion, the more I dislike it and what it does to the world and its people. This blog will help you understand why religion is something you shouldn't accept as a good thing in our lives. Above all, don't respect religious beliefs when their practitioners refuse to respect you.
8 August 2007
Next time the Mormons come, this is what I'll do     8 August 2007
Sorry I'm staying with the subject of the Mormons, but I've had an exciting idea, albeit one which will take a while because I'll have to wait until they send a couple of new missionaries out on patrol.

Next time the Mormons come, instead of arguing with them, instead of showing them all the problems with their little magic book, I'm going to do something a little different. I am going to go along with everything they say. I'm going to become a Mormon! Yay!

Well actually you probably couldn't drag me into a church, but I will pray with them at my home, and tell them I believe the book is true, and that I felt the Holy Ghost enter me (prayer is my lube and faith is my condom). I can probably cry too if that helps - I'll just think of something sad and turn on the waterworks. I could always throw in some weird head movements and facial expressions, just to freak them out a little. After all, God moves in mysterious ways!

I will of course have to tell them it's all been fake, just before they leave, but if they can waste my time, I can waste theirs. Part of me is saying it's a little cruel, but another part of me says fuck it, they believe in Jesus and that means... they'll forgive me!

How about this: I convert to Mormonism and they are happy. Next time they come round I say I've got some questions and then hit them with my doubts... and convert right back again. In fact if I pretend that I was originally a Christian, became a Mormon, but now I'm so disillusioned that I'm an atheist, they are going to feel like they've made the situation a whole lot worse for me!

Am I going too far here? Maybe. But the idea sounds fun, so I thought I'd share it with you anyway.

It might be several months before they come back again, so don't hold your breath, but if you think it's a good plan, why not try it yourself next time the LDS boys come a-calling? It's not as if they will do anything bad to you for mocking them is it? Mormons aren't the kind of people who tend to fire-bomb your house, from what I've heard.


Footnote:
Hey, the Jehovah's Witnesses haven't been round for a while. Maybe I could start with them!
Mormons say one thing, DNA says another     8 August 2007
It's a shame I hadn't watched this documentary before the Mormons called earlier this week. I'm sure the two missionaries who called would be unaware that DNA evidence proves that one of the Book of Mormon's core messages, that Israelites travelled to the Americas and settled there, is a complete fabrication. I'm happy to let them know all about it next time... when they will of course refuse to listen to me again.

If you know nothing about the Church of the Latter-Day Saints, ie the Mormons, the first few minutes of this video give a good summary of the supposed 'history' found in the book. The remainder smashes it all apart, using that tried and tested tool, science.

One little irony is that the video was produced by Living Hope Ministries, a decidedly Christian organisation, whose tag-line is 'sharing Biblical truths with Latter-Day Saints'. Christians using science to disprove religion. Hmmm. Only someone else's religion of course, not their own!


The video is around 50 minutes long but if you don't want to watch the whole thing you can get the general idea from the first 15-20 minutes. However, you will miss most of what I find to be the most open-minded of the people in the video, although I don't doubt the honesty of the others featured in it. Thomas Murphy, a Mormon anthropologist and scholar (the man in the still image shown above, before the video plays), is still a Mormon. While the others are all ex-Mormons, Murphy is coming at the subject from within the LDS Church, and he is genuinely struggling with what he knows to be true - the DNA evidence is irrefutable, and as a result the Book of Mormon must be false. In his words, 'the book of Mormon would not stand up in a court of law today'. See the footnote below for more from Thomas Murphy.

The bottom line: Joseph Smith just made it all up, and the Book of Mormon is a book of lies.


Footnotes:
Apologies for the inevitable Christian message delievered in the last five minutes of the documentary. As I said, this was a production of a Christian ministry, so you'd expect them to put a Biblical slant on it. But Christians should remember that science disproves their holy text, the Bible, just as firmly as it disproves the Book of Mormon. I laughed out loud when he said that Mormons were wrong to use the excuse that God changed the DNA on purpose to 'test them'. Isn't that exactly what some Christians say about radiometric dating? That the world isn't billions of years old because God made the world appear to be artificially old to 'test our faith'?

Ignore the hypocritical message of Christianity in this video because the science itself, the DNA evidence proving that Native Americans did not descend from the Israelites, is good.


Attacks on the validity of the Book of Mormon using DNA data
Thomas Murphy and Simon Southerton, both of whom are Mormon scholars from the video, are featured heavily on this web page. There is also a large list of links to related reading.


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